tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2020300354268548128.post2341534091426414032..comments2024-03-27T15:08:52.340+05:30Comments on Corporate Frauds Watch: The victims of 'MLM income opportunity' fraud are not to blameShyam Sundarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06882675852552827969noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2020300354268548128.post-62641569959918135522011-09-06T12:21:40.923+05:302011-09-06T12:21:40.923+05:30@Shyam
The problem is education, and this is true...@Shyam<br /><br />The problem is education, and this is true everywhere. <br /><br />For past 50+ years, since the start of MLM, the industry had steadily attempted to legitimize itself and distance itself from its CLOSE cousins, the pyramid scheme and the Ponzi scheme. While it has some superficial differences, as Mr. Brear would put it, law enforcement was fooled into seeing it as not a scam (when it should be). <br /><br />The industry had also steadily built up its image as well as "train" (or as you and Mr. Brear would say, indoctrinate) its members into believing that they are NOT really related to their illegal cousins, the pyramid scheme and the Ponzi scheme. <br /><br />The MLM system is very interesting in that it can "turn" the failure of individuals upon the individual members, so they blame themselves instead of the system, through various means such as indoctrination and through "leaders" who reinforce the notions. However, when 99% of the participants lose money, it clearly is the system at fault, not the individuals. <br /><br />In discussion with Dr. R Fitzpatrick, he had commented that the best way to combat MLM is to get the word out about the system's failure to enrich those who participate (except those on top or near top).GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2020300354268548128.post-74782913272982849312011-09-06T12:08:49.230+05:302011-09-06T12:08:49.230+05:30Mr. Brear,
Once again, there seem to be a differ...Mr. Brear, <br /><br />Once again, there seem to be a difference between what I wrote and what you think I wrote. <br /><br />The statement "government will not save you if you don't do your due diligence" certainly does NOT imply that the victims have partly themselves to blame if they joined. <br />I honestly have NO CLUE where you got that idea from. <br /><br />The reality of the matter is governments are SLOW acting upon financial frauds. Both you and I have cited examples where it took 2 YEARS for the government and/or law enforcement to crack down on a fraudulent pyramid scheme, and those are the OBVIOUSLY illegal ones. For the more subtle forms (such as the currently legal Amway and its clones) changes in law and enforcement are required, and that would take even longer. <br /><br />Thus, the statement "government will not save you" is a statement of reality. By the time government intervene, usually 2 years later, it would be too late for most people already embroiled in the scam. <br /><br />Thus, the only reliable prevention is do your own due diligence, such as reading this blog. <br /><br />And that is all I meant. <br /><br />Why would I call you condescending and hostile, Mr. Brear? Because you have a way of making a mountain out of a molehill. This blog entry is an excellent example. You extrapolated "blame the victims" out of a normal statement of act. You had assumed that I have hidden meanings behind the sentence. Is that not "hostile"? <br /><br />However, I have no intention of getting in a word-for-word deconstruction of your various prior statements and see how many other extrapolations you have made. That gets us nowhere. As I have said, we are on the same side. We should be commenting on the OTHER evils of MLM and pseudo-MLM scams, not sniping at each other. <br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />KCGuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2020300354268548128.post-52186500973958465732011-09-05T14:34:20.829+05:302011-09-05T14:34:20.829+05:30Many a time I too face the same question during pu...Many a time I too face the same question during public meetings. They ask, "If MLM is illegal, why the government is not taking action against it."<br />At the same time, when I approach the Government officers to ban companies like Amway, they immediately ask how many criminal cases were filed against such companies.<br />The Government takes action if people complained and people, as David Brear says, do not complain out of shame or reluctant to complain against their own friends and relatives.<br />That doesn't mean they are all legitimate companies. People with little brains never understand this.Shyam Sundarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06882675852552827969noreply@blogger.com