Shyam
Judging by his latest bizarre, and illogical, attempted squawk, in which he confuses the two words 'demigod' and 'demagogue,' the 'Amway' Lord Haw Haw, Mr. Steadson, is on the point of signing-off (for good).
Behind all the incongruous drivel, what Steadson is now stating (and apparently he remains sincere in his beliefs) indicates that he is genuinely psychotic (i.e. suffering from delusions and loss of contact with external reality). This (as Steadson is fully-aware) is not only my opinion, but that of medically-qualified associates with long-experience of reality-inverting cultists (particularly 'Scientologists'). Put in simple terms, so long as his ego-building belief in 'Amway' as an 'authentic commercial company' persists, Steadson sees himself as someone righteous and intellegent. In order for him to face external reality, Steadson has first to admit that he's actually a poor schmuck who has been perpetrating a fraud. For, according to your resident masked 'Amway' propagandist, all the abundant and self-evident characteristics which the 'Amway' movement has in common with other camouflaged totalitarian groups (or cults), do not exist. Typically, this arrogant 'Amway' recruiting-sergeant is still ordering you, and your readers, to stop thinking freely. How dare we defy him and his bosses?
Steadson now claims that :
- There's no such thing as the 'Upline / Downline' para-military-style hierarchy in 'Amway.'
- The billionaire De Vos and Van Andel clans (who penned the 'Nazi'-style 'Amway' myth half a century ago, in which they have permanent starring-roles as infallible, honest Christian heros and leaders selflessly bringing 'Prosperity Freedom and Happiness' to all those who follow them without question), are a figment of my imagination.
- Multi-millionaire 'Amway Diamond' Reich Führers, like the self-proclaimed 'pastor', Dexter Yager (shining examples of 'Amway Prosperity, Freedom and Happiness' whose example must be exactly duplicated by the 'Amway' faithful), are also a complete invention.
- The De Vos and Van Andel clans have never sought to maintain an absolute monopoly of information about their criminal activities. They have never filed, or threatened to file, countless malicious lawsuits against persons challenging the authenticity of the 'Amway' myth, in an attempt to repress dissent. They have never sought to hide the fact that the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' which they sponsor, has had an (effectively) 100% loss-rate for tens of millions of participants over a period exceeding 50 years.
- The De Vos and Van Andel clans do not retain absolute control over the price and quality of the products which they supply to 'Amway' adherents, and, thus, they do not retain absolute control over whether the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' is economically viable for its participants.
- There have never been any Internet-based, de facto 'Amway' agents who steadfastly pretend to be independent of the 'Amway' leadership, but who constantly broadcast mis-information about the economic viablity of the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' and the saleability of 'Amway' products, or who attempt to character-assassinate all free-thinking persons challenging the authenticity of the 'Amway' myth .
In other words, according to Mr. Steadson's parallel logic, he doesn't exist himself.
Apparently, we've invented him Shyam.
David Brear
Judging by his latest bizarre, and illogical, attempted squawk, in which he confuses the two words 'demigod' and 'demagogue,' the 'Amway' Lord Haw Haw, Mr. Steadson, is on the point of signing-off (for good).
Behind all the incongruous drivel, what Steadson is now stating (and apparently he remains sincere in his beliefs) indicates that he is genuinely psychotic (i.e. suffering from delusions and loss of contact with external reality). This (as Steadson is fully-aware) is not only my opinion, but that of medically-qualified associates with long-experience of reality-inverting cultists (particularly 'Scientologists'). Put in simple terms, so long as his ego-building belief in 'Amway' as an 'authentic commercial company' persists, Steadson sees himself as someone righteous and intellegent. In order for him to face external reality, Steadson has first to admit that he's actually a poor schmuck who has been perpetrating a fraud. For, according to your resident masked 'Amway' propagandist, all the abundant and self-evident characteristics which the 'Amway' movement has in common with other camouflaged totalitarian groups (or cults), do not exist. Typically, this arrogant 'Amway' recruiting-sergeant is still ordering you, and your readers, to stop thinking freely. How dare we defy him and his bosses?
Steadson now claims that :
- There's no such thing as the 'Upline / Downline' para-military-style hierarchy in 'Amway.'
- The billionaire De Vos and Van Andel clans (who penned the 'Nazi'-style 'Amway' myth half a century ago, in which they have permanent starring-roles as infallible, honest Christian heros and leaders selflessly bringing 'Prosperity Freedom and Happiness' to all those who follow them without question), are a figment of my imagination.
- Multi-millionaire 'Amway Diamond' Reich Führers, like the self-proclaimed 'pastor', Dexter Yager (shining examples of 'Amway Prosperity, Freedom and Happiness' whose example must be exactly duplicated by the 'Amway' faithful), are also a complete invention.
- The De Vos and Van Andel clans have never sought to maintain an absolute monopoly of information about their criminal activities. They have never filed, or threatened to file, countless malicious lawsuits against persons challenging the authenticity of the 'Amway' myth, in an attempt to repress dissent. They have never sought to hide the fact that the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' which they sponsor, has had an (effectively) 100% loss-rate for tens of millions of participants over a period exceeding 50 years.
- The De Vos and Van Andel clans do not retain absolute control over the price and quality of the products which they supply to 'Amway' adherents, and, thus, they do not retain absolute control over whether the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' is economically viable for its participants.
- There have never been any Internet-based, de facto 'Amway' agents who steadfastly pretend to be independent of the 'Amway' leadership, but who constantly broadcast mis-information about the economic viablity of the so-called 'Amway Business Opportunity' and the saleability of 'Amway' products, or who attempt to character-assassinate all free-thinking persons challenging the authenticity of the 'Amway' myth .
In other words, according to Mr. Steadson's parallel logic, he doesn't exist himself.
Apparently, we've invented him Shyam.
David Brear
7 comments:
Brear,
Your posts are too generalized to be useful. Plus, going after ibofb is the wrong target. If you can muster up the "courage", we should talk. I will be the one not holding my breath. LOL
http://texsquixtarblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/talk-to-tex.html
ibofb,
You still haven't addressed the below statement by the UK judge. I also challenge you to find a statement in his ruling that would support your position that the actions taken by Amway prior to or during the court case had no bearing on shutting them down.
On balance I do not consider that the need to punish Amway for its past wrongs or the need to deter other multilevel companies from inducing the public to become purchasers and retailers of its products by misstatements requires that the serious consequences I have identified be visited on Amway: and as a result of the undertakings now offered (including that offered at trial) I consider a winding up order to be disproportionate.
While you're at it, address the Bruce Anderson example I provided a couple of months ago, to refute your claim lower level Emerald/Diamonds don't make much on tools. You should know what he is now up to, it illustrates how a complete idiot can be an Amway LCK Diamond, as long as he is childhood friends with the right people, in this case Randy Haugen: http://www.baron55.com/Introducing_Gabe.html
Note the motorcoach on jacks in the background. I've been INSIDE that vehicle, it's very nice inside.
Tex,
I've *never* claimed that *no* emerald or diamond etc makes more from "the system" than Amway. Never. You don't seem to understand that there is actually a very large space between "all" and "none". Yes, some of excessively profited in this area, I don't think there's much dispute about that. What's wrong is to claim it's universal or even common.
As for Bruce Anderson, I feel sorry for him. Pending some info of which we're not aware, I also do not agree with Amway pursuing former IBOs through arbitration.
Re the Amway UK case, I again say, read the appeal judgement. I read the section you cited exactly the way you did. The appeal judges did not, and they're far more experienced in these matters than either you or I.
Let's take a vote ...
Who actually read every sentence of Brear's rambling post?
I tried, but alas, failed.
ibofb,
LIAR. You stated that nobody has ever provided you a single example, even though you have asked numerous times for a single example. LIAR.
I don't feel sorry for Anderson, he's a (former) LCK.
It doesn't matter if you agree whether Amway can arbitrate former IBOs, it's in the current contract. Unless/until someone takes Amway to court (good luck, they will delay it until the plaintiff is literally dead!), it stands. The best current court case is the Pokorny, which is awaiting a court date, with no near-term expectations, according to a lawyer involved in the case.
Again, you inferred the ORIGINAL judge said it didn't matter what actions Amway took before/during the trial, by saying, "Tex - The appeals judge was referring to the original judges findings." Of course they were referring to the original judge's findings, that's what appeals judges do when they are reviewing a lower court case. Duh! The FACT is there is no language that remotely infers this concept in the original judge's decision, and it is apparent the appeals court was in error on this point. THAT is my point.
Also, the appeal judges' main responsibility was to determine whether the original judgment should stand or not, so whatever editorial comments they made are insignificant.
I read Brear's post, then I puked. It's a great weight loss plan!
Textard...
Brear's work makes much more sense than your insane rantings about the 'Amway kingpins being the root cause problem of the wonderful Amway 'opportunity.' You merely litter Shyam's blog with your rantings to draw attention to yourself and your own pathetic blog.
The Amway kingpins are indeed a sorry lot of liars, hypocrits and the like, but they aren't any worse than the Devos/Van Andels who instigated the major swindle in the first place. They take their place with the likes of L. Ron Hubbard.
Amway should have been shut down in the UK. Amway should be shut down every where it operates. It is a criminogenic organization. Indian high justices in a majority opinion understand Amway to be a money circulating scheme. Why can't you? When I snap my finger, you will awaken.
"Steal a little and they call you a thief; Steal a lot and they call you Amway!"
The Amway tool scam was shut down in the UK, not the Amway product business. Think about it, even if it hurts a little. LOL
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