Thursday, 21 October 2010

Customers? What customers?

Shyam
In theory, in order to earn money lawfully in the UK, the participants in any so-called 'Direct Selling/Marketing scheme' have regularly to retail products (for a net-profit), and/or services (for a net-profit), to a significant number of persons who are not participants in the scheme. Therefore, any so-called 'MLM Business Opportunity' (no matter how it is presented externally) where the overwhelming majority of the participants have remained insolvent, because they did not regularly retail to significant numbers of outsiders (for a net-profit), but instead were obliged regularly to buy effectively-unsaleable products, and/or services, and to find others to do the same (on the pretext that 'the Exact Duplication of a Proven Plan of self-consumption and recruitment can enable anyone to achieve Total Financial Freedom'), is a dissimulated closed-market swindle.
We now know that, during a 34 year period (1973-2007), at least one million so-called 'Direct Sellers' were churned through 'Amway UK Ltd.', but more than 90% never actually made so much as one profitable 'direct sale' to an outsider, whilst effectively all of them remained insolvent. The tiny minority of smartly-dressed, grinning heterosexual couples who were constantly presented in 'Amway UK's' kitsch propaganda as shining examples of 'MLM' success to be copied, were either insolvent dupes, or wealthy schills whose profits secretly derived from a related advance fee fraud (a.k.a.'tool scam').
Apparently (exactly like 'MLM' useful idiot, Tony Blair, in 1999), the unmasked 'Amway' Lord Haw Haw, Mr. IBOFB Steadson, cannot divide 24 millions (or 24 000 000), by 500 000 or (half a million). Perhaps, we should give the numerically-challenged 'MLM' propagandist some help.
If you divide 24 millions by one million, you get 24. So, if you divide 24 millions by half a million, you get 48.
According to UK government statistics, there were around 24 millions households in the UK in 1999. Therefore, if all these households were shared out to all the claimed 500 000 so-called 'UK Direct Sellers,' they would each have had just 48 households as potential, lawful retail customers. Yet (without any explanation) the 'Amway' Lord Haw Haw proclaims:
'500,000 direct sellers and 24 million households does not mean "less than 50 households as potential customers" for each direct seller.'
Judging by his previous, self-contradictory sophistry, Mr. Steadson will probably now try to convince your readers that in 1999, a significant proportion of the 500 000 UK direct sellers were not actually direct sellers (as Tony Blair was led to believe), they were lawful retail customers.
David Brear (copyright 2010)

10 comments:

IBOFB said...

So, in Brear-land if I'm a direct seller selling say, telephone subscriptions, I'm unable to sell to the same household that a direct seller selling lipstick sells to?

Does anyone take you seriously Brear?

And Shyam agrees with this idiotic rubbish?

Your just two lost souls living in a fish bowl, year after year ...

The power of the internet to unite idiots around the world.

IBOFB said...

in order to earn money lawfully in the UK, the participants in any so-called 'Direct Selling/Marketing scheme' have regularly to retail products (for a net-profit), and/or services (for a net-profit), to a significant number of persons who are not participants in the scheme.

Care to cite the law that says that?

You can't. You made it up.

The truth is that Schedule 1 of the The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 explictly says "consumption", not just sales, is fine -

Commercial practices which are in all circumstances considered unfair

...

Establishing, operating or promoting a pyramid promotional scheme where a consumer gives consideration for the opportunity to receive compensation that is derived primarily from the introduction of other consumers into the scheme rather than from the sale or consumption of products.

Shyam Sundar said...

There are thousands of people who agree with the reality, IBOFB. One only hopes that people like Trivedi would realise after some years of losing money in the Amway labyrinth unless they are brainwashed.

Shyam Sundar said...

"Establishing, operating or promoting a pyramid promotional scheme where a consumer gives consideration for the opportunity to receive compensation that is derived primarily from the introduction of other consumers into the scheme rather than from the sale or consumption of products."
This is what I have been saying from the beginning. 6-4-3 is an example of the pyramid scheme. Without enrollment there is no Amway business.

IBOFB said...

Shyam, in Amway, IBOs DO NOT "receive compensation that is derived primarily from the introduction of other consumers into the scheme rather than from the sale or consumption of products."

Shyam Sundar said...

You sell the products. Why concentrate on enrolling more members all the time. Every IBO I know of concentrates only on enrollment instead of selling products to them. Because there is money in it. Whether it is directly from Amway or otherwise they receive commission. You call it compensation. The word compensation is itself funny. You compensate when somebody loses something.

IBOFB said...

If IBOs are enrolling people are not getting them to buy any products (ie selling products to them!), then THEY MAKE NO MONEY.

You seem to be confused by the fact that when people register they also buy some products.

Tell me Shyam, if I build an Amway India business in the hypothetical 6-4-3 example, in one month, and every single person decides they don't like or want the products, so they return them for a full refund ... but they maintain their membership ... how much do I earn that month?

If, I build this model, and for the next 10 years nobody is recruited ... but they all find some products they like and buy 100 points are month .... how much do I earn each month?

Please think about this and answer

rocket said...

Uh, they don't sell products because it's difficult due to the inefficient distribution & poor value to the end user.

The money is in achieving certain levels through self consumption, not retailing.

Because then you get tools profits.

There's no retailing because the vast majority of people not in Amway don't view the products as worth it.

How many non -IBO's regularly and consistently purchase Amway products from IBO's?

Dave, you seem to have a knack for knowing everything. Any answer to that very simple question?

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