Sunday, 6 December 2009

Amway apologists incapable of facing ego-destroying reality

To persons, such as Trivedi, Scott ('Tex') Johnson , David ('IBOFB') Steadson, et al. 'Amway' is total reality. Yet, in the final analysis, 'Amway' (short for the 'American Way' ) can only be a puerile game of make-believe. All the quantifiable evidence ( as well as common sense), reveals to us that the 'Amway' myth of 'total financial freedom in 2-5 years' is no more real than the tale of one kindly old man with a white beard, Santa Claus, delivering presents to countless millions of obedient children around the world. However, young children's unconscious acceptance of 'Santa Claus' as total reality, stems from a fictitious scenario reflected as fact by the traditional culture in which they live. Up to a certain age, children are not equipped to challenge the model of reality offered to them by authoritarian figures in their family groups; particularly, their parents. Therefore, once children have been converted to a self-gratifying false belief in 'Santa,' the truth (that they are actually being deceived by the people whom they instinctively trust and follow) is unthinkable. The scenario can then be expanded to modify children's behaviour - 'Santa' has magical powers... he can see and hear everything they do at all times... he will reward them for unquestioning belief and punish them for dissent. Only when they attain the necessary level of intellectual / pyschological development, can children begin to use their critical and evaluative faculties and come to realize that 'Santa' is merely a game of make-believe. If you think about it, many of the basic procedures and conditions which have been used to establish the 'Amway' deception are only more-sophisticated versions of those which also propagate the benign 'Santa' deception. However, the instigators of 'Amway' were anything, but benign. In deed, many of their most-deluded adherents and convincing apologists turn out to be educated adults who have simply become incapable of facing the ego-destroying reality that they've been fooled by what is merely a game of make-believe.
Although core-adherents of the 'Amway' myth are demonstrably dissociated from external reality, they are always certain that they alone represent the 'truth' and they act accordingly. This is why Shyam, I keep saying that it a pointless waste of time trying to reason with these deluded people.
In effect, we are telling a group of wide-eyed children that they will receive no presents at Xmas, because 'Santa' is a lie and their parents are liars.
David Brear


dtytrivedi said...

hey listen shyam,

what i said i am totally aware of.

"What a funny argument Trivedi. No compulsion to enrol people. No compulsion to purchase products. Still, you can make a lot of money achieving 'total financial freedom'. If there is no compulsion for anything why join the business model. One can purchase products from any distributor.That is why I call you nitwit".

go and check the clear distinction between direct selling and pyramid scheme. What i said is present in that.

Its tough for u to understand because u don't want to know the difference between direct selling and pyramid scheme

IBOFB said...

Hey Brear - can you point me to a single example of *Amway* promoting this "2-5yr to financial freedom" idea?

In a decade I've never once encountered Amway promoting it. It seems the myth is that it's an Amway myth!

I've seen a video by some Diamond (one of thousands) mention it. I have some friends who have achieved it, and I've read of others claiming they've been told it ... but never ever by Amway.

So you always make things up like this, pretend the "other side" said it, and then argue against yourself?

Why do I bother to ask? :-/ I've seen you do it often, so I know you do.

Funnily enough the video where a Diamond said it got pulled of youtube pretty quick - I guess that was just one of those mythical instances of Amway taking action against people saying dumb things huh?

Here's the story Brear - it's possible to achieve "financial freedom" in 2-5 years. It's rare, but it's possible. That's no secret. Amway advertises the fact that only a fraction of percent of people qualify Diamond, and that they take, on average, a little less than a decade to do it. But then, I know a guy who did it in 10 months. I know another guy who did it in 20 years.

As the UK judge understood - and you and Shyam clearly do not - it's an opportunity, not a guarantee.

dtytrivedi said...
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dtytrivedi said...

people like u who are good but u are often the victim of people who do the business of direct selling in faulty manner or/and who pyramid scheme operators.

i agree pyramid scheme often seems same as direct selling but its not.

Now for explaining that i won't write stories like u.

A word of caution for before judging it. just to let u know that the above information has been prepared by

The Direct Selling Education Foundation, in cooperation with the National District Attorneys Association's Economic Crime Project and the Federal Trade Commission, regarding tips for consumers on how to tell the difference between legitimate companies and pyramid schemes and how to protect yourself from these schemes.

Tex said...


Now I understand your problem: You just found out about Santa Claus, now you're pissed at the world? LOL

Joecool said...

The 2-5 year plan to financial freedom is most likely promoted more in the US. I certainly heard it more than once.

Tex said...

How many years ago was the last time you heard it?

Joecool said...

I just got an email from an IBO saying you could be free in 2-3 years.

Tex said...

I just got an email from Tiger Woods, he wants to know if you or any of your "honeys" have tested positive for STDs. LOL