Shyam
It was actually the UK government's lawyers who, last year, described unquestioning 'Amway' recruits (like our Mr. Steadson) as being 'vulnerable and deluded.'
Despite Steadson's latest demonstration of reality-inverting, totalitarian sophistry (in which irrefutable, calm, logical thinking is systematically condemned and excluded as 'delusional ranting' ), the quantifiable evidence proves beyond all reasonable doubt that, if anyone is really interested in acquiring some of 'Amway' s' banal products, then they should simply look on e-bay. Here, you can always find heaps of unwanted 'Amway' junk at a fraction of the grossly-inflated, controlled prices which the organization originally charged to its pyramid of ever-changing contributors. Even when the prices are slashed, still no one seems to want to buy. Yet, according to Steadson's puerile yarn (which he didn't write himself) 'Amway Products are World Beating.' In the adult world of quantifiable reality, 'Amway' products have little or no value and, consequently, they are (effectively) impossible to sell on the open-market. Indeed, According to evidence recovered by accountants working for the Company Investigation Branch of BERR, virtually no authentic retail sales were being made by 'Amway' in the UK. This has been the situation for the past 35 years. Steadson's claims regarding this aspect of the 'Amway' fraud are lies which can be easily proved by the fact that, in order to forestall the company's closure, 'Amway UK's' lawyers were obliged to promise the UK High court that, in future, all 'Amway UK' s active agents would have to show that they were making a significant number of authentic retail sales.
However, 'Amway' s' (essentially) unsaleable products are, in many respects, a red herring. It is sufficient only to know that it is (effectively) impossible to make a profit from the operation of what 'Amway's' instigators arbitrarily and falsely define as an 'Independent Business.' For decades, the secret, overwhelming majority of financial activity in 'Amway' has been the sale of books, recordings, tickets to meetings, etc., to the insolvent participants in a premeditated closed-market swindle on the pretext that 'these materials contain exclusive secrets vital to achieving Total Financial Freedom.' In order to forestall closure, and a full-scale international criminal investigation, the Corporate officers of 'Amway UK' and the 'UK Direct Selling Assocation' submitted written depositions to the UK High Court in which they pretended that they couldn't be held responsibe for the activities of the individuals and corporate structures producing and selling these allied materials and exaggerating the rewards available in 'Amway', but anyway they had been unaware that such a problem existed, and that now that they were aware, every effort would be made to prevent these abuses. 'Amway UK's' lawyers were obliged to promise the UK High Court that the sale of these so-called 'Business Support Materials' would be, henceforth, prohibited.
Unfortunately, the Individual who received the lion's share of the secondary advanced fee fraud in the UK, Dexter Yager, was recently filmed embracing the surviving author of the 'Amway' myth, Richard DeVos, on the occasion of the myth's 50th birthday. Given the wider evidence, one would have to be pretty dim, and/or deluded, to believe that these two sanctimonious old charlatans have not been acting in collusion.
Once the full-picture is examined, the scripted claims of innocence and ignorance made by the coporate officers of 'Amway UK' and the 'UK DSA' were perjury, written by their pay-masters and committed in order to obstruct the course of justice.
David Brear
It was actually the UK government's lawyers who, last year, described unquestioning 'Amway' recruits (like our Mr. Steadson) as being 'vulnerable and deluded.'
Despite Steadson's latest demonstration of reality-inverting, totalitarian sophistry (in which irrefutable, calm, logical thinking is systematically condemned and excluded as 'delusional ranting' ), the quantifiable evidence proves beyond all reasonable doubt that, if anyone is really interested in acquiring some of 'Amway' s' banal products, then they should simply look on e-bay. Here, you can always find heaps of unwanted 'Amway' junk at a fraction of the grossly-inflated, controlled prices which the organization originally charged to its pyramid of ever-changing contributors. Even when the prices are slashed, still no one seems to want to buy. Yet, according to Steadson's puerile yarn (which he didn't write himself) 'Amway Products are World Beating.' In the adult world of quantifiable reality, 'Amway' products have little or no value and, consequently, they are (effectively) impossible to sell on the open-market. Indeed, According to evidence recovered by accountants working for the Company Investigation Branch of BERR, virtually no authentic retail sales were being made by 'Amway' in the UK. This has been the situation for the past 35 years. Steadson's claims regarding this aspect of the 'Amway' fraud are lies which can be easily proved by the fact that, in order to forestall the company's closure, 'Amway UK's' lawyers were obliged to promise the UK High court that, in future, all 'Amway UK' s active agents would have to show that they were making a significant number of authentic retail sales.
However, 'Amway' s' (essentially) unsaleable products are, in many respects, a red herring. It is sufficient only to know that it is (effectively) impossible to make a profit from the operation of what 'Amway's' instigators arbitrarily and falsely define as an 'Independent Business.' For decades, the secret, overwhelming majority of financial activity in 'Amway' has been the sale of books, recordings, tickets to meetings, etc., to the insolvent participants in a premeditated closed-market swindle on the pretext that 'these materials contain exclusive secrets vital to achieving Total Financial Freedom.' In order to forestall closure, and a full-scale international criminal investigation, the Corporate officers of 'Amway UK' and the 'UK Direct Selling Assocation' submitted written depositions to the UK High Court in which they pretended that they couldn't be held responsibe for the activities of the individuals and corporate structures producing and selling these allied materials and exaggerating the rewards available in 'Amway', but anyway they had been unaware that such a problem existed, and that now that they were aware, every effort would be made to prevent these abuses. 'Amway UK's' lawyers were obliged to promise the UK High Court that the sale of these so-called 'Business Support Materials' would be, henceforth, prohibited.
Unfortunately, the Individual who received the lion's share of the secondary advanced fee fraud in the UK, Dexter Yager, was recently filmed embracing the surviving author of the 'Amway' myth, Richard DeVos, on the occasion of the myth's 50th birthday. Given the wider evidence, one would have to be pretty dim, and/or deluded, to believe that these two sanctimonious old charlatans have not been acting in collusion.
Once the full-picture is examined, the scripted claims of innocence and ignorance made by the coporate officers of 'Amway UK' and the 'UK DSA' were perjury, written by their pay-masters and committed in order to obstruct the course of justice.
David Brear
6 comments:
I'm "vulnerable and deluded"?
ROFLMAO!!!!
Mr Brear, if nothing else you're worth the entertainment value.
But let's see who is truly "deluded". The very headline says -
"Amway products have little or no value and impossible to sell in an open market"
Have you ANY evidence to support this at all? In my last comment I provided a link to a news article about the International Cricket Council using Amway products in India. Indeed, the BCCI later recommended APSA-80 be used on all fields when deemed necessary.
But I guess they're impossible to sell huh ...
Contrary to your claim here, according to the BERR vs UK judgement, also linked to earlier, some 40% of Amway products in the UK were sold "on the open market". But I guess that should be ignored?
Or perhaps you should review this thread on AmwayTalk - And they say there's no customers? - where numerous IBOs reporting having significant numbers of customers.
Of course, your response is likely to be we are all deluded! Such an amazing conspiracy isn't it .... KPMG, somehow deluded by Amway Europe. All the different companies that have given awards to Amway products ... deluded.
ICC and BCCI? Deluded.
Heck, even my bank is deluded! Why? Well, despite not even actively building a business, I've picked up some 20 or 30 registered customers the last few years ... and money miraculousy appears in my bank account when they buy stuff!!
A deluded bank!
Tell me, David, can I direct the local tax authorities to you? I'd like to tell them the profit I make on sale of products is actually a delusion ... I shouldn't have to pay tax on a delusion should I?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA
Truly Mr Brear, you're a gifted comic!
And then Joecool comes in with a followup!!! Hilarious!!
What amazes me the most is how Amway critics, while claiming Amway is somehow a scam, so often lie through their teeth!
Why the need to lie Steve, Shyam, David?
Doesn't the truth support your delusions well enough?
IBOFB aka David Steadson, how about telling me what I'm lying about instead of making things up?
Excellent post! This is easily confirmed with undeniable facts. If Amway products were so great, they would be competitive in the general market. They are not. IBOs almost exclusively are the customers of Amway products. Also, I don't know of many former IBOs who continue to have product loyalty to Amway products once they are not pursuing dreams of being a diamond, etc etc.
Also, the fact that Amway products are being sold on ebay and Craigslist suggests that returning them may not be as easy as advertised.
But seeing how cds or standing orders are sold for pennies on the dollar on ebay or Craigslist suggests to me that these tools are worthless crap.
How IBOFB can defend a business when he has achieved only an "at least founder's 3%" is beyond me.
Joecool - I'm afraid your commenting on things you clearning have no prevy to. I understand your concern...but "worthless crap"? Go look up tools for digging up cacti and draining its water in the Sahara. They're pretty cheap too. Why? Not because they are "worthless crap", as you so eloquently stated. Its because its rare and the demand is low. Computer parts quickly become replaced by the newer and more updated parts. An employee certainly finds no value whatsoever in a product that helps them to complete Schedule C's more efficiently. Only entreprenuers use those forms. I hope these are the only type of things your write because anything else you write has lost credibility in the intelligent readers mind and immediately. Ignorance may be bliss for you...but it hurts others with a dream.
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