Sunday, 5 July 2009

Conveniently lying is IBOFB style

The amwayindia.com website clearly gives examples as Eg. 1, Eg.2, Eg 3 to highlight its scheme of sponsoring, finding customers who could afford to purchase the products. In the Eg. 1 the website illustrates how much a family should purchase to get a total PV of 102.26 and total BV 4,601.70. Then it says if you have two or three friends who are interested in buying Amway products your earnings would be Rs. 3, 510. To get that income, you have to purchase ten items spending at least Rs. 10,000 for your family of four. Out of these ten items, Indians hardly purchase only three or four items generally. You have to have 'friends' to buy these expensive products. And if they buy you have to invest Rs. 30,000 more for purchasing products for them. If you succeed you may earn Rs. 3,510. Otherwise you would never get amount. So it is clear here that you must have two or three friends who are interested to purchase Amway products. Otherwise, you have to search for them. That is how the housewife, Nirmala from Hyderabad got frustrated. Go to older posts to learn her story. So is the case of so many.
In the Eg2, the website suggests to sponsor four persons to earn total earning of Rs. 5, 535 per month. That is you have to find four persons to sponsor.
In the Eg.3, it suggests that the sponsored persons should sponsor other persons as their downline members where your earnings would be Rs. 50, 850 per month. It is not mere four members but is more than that.
Here one has to notice, this sponsoring and further sponsoring is nothing but money circulation scheme as described in the Prize Chits & Money circulation schemes (Banning) Act, 1978. One can go to older posts to find the Bare Act of that enactment.
IBOFB conveniently ignores that the police have already completed the investigation and filed the charge sheet in the judicial court. The next hearing of that case is posted for July 23, 2009. Instead of realising this truth, the IBOFB lives in another part of the world and thinks what happened in the UK, is also happening in India.
Come out of the fantasy of make-believe business world IBOFB. Reality really hurts. Do you still insist that Amway never works that way. Go to the AmwayIndia.com website once again and see for your self.

1 comment:

IBOFB said...

Gee, how many words in that post, and nowhere did you show me lying?

I posted a link to the document I was discussing on amwayindia.com - perhaps you could post a link to what you're talking about so that others can check your rather odd interpretation? Is it the examples on the brochure I linked to? I'll assume it is.

But first, do you know what "Eg." stands for? It's latin for exempli gratia and means "for the sake of example"

It's an example. That's how there can be three of them! Indeed, it would be possible to give an effectively unlimited number of examples.

In example one it says it's "a simple example" and "lets presume" and "above is a simple example wherein only 2 or 3 customers have been assumed". It's an example, isn't that clear?

You claim it says "To get that income, you have to purchase ten items spending at least Rs. 10,000 for your family of four."/i>

That's completely false. That's not what the brochure says, and it's not how Amway operates. You don't *have* to purchase anything to get that income. You can generate that income and purchase ZERO products for personal use.

Are you lying when you claim people have to buy these products, or are you ignorant? I guess a third option is you're just stupid. A fourth option is that you are paid by one or some of Amway's competition to disparage them. I asked you before if this was the case, and if I recall correctly you never answered. Why is that?

Now, you do go on to indicate perhaps you do understand the model, because you claim "If you succeed you may earn Rs. 3,510. Otherwise you would never get amount. "

Yes! You've got it! It's an example, and if you did exactly what was in that example, then you'd earn that money. Unfortunately you go on to say something silly like this -

So it is clear here that you must have two or three friends who are interested to purchase Amway products.

No, it's not clear at all. If you had one enemy who purchased all of that volume you'd make that income. If you had 30 acquaintances who each purchased 10% of the example volume, then you'd make that much.

You go on to say -

<>.In the Eg2, the website suggests to sponsor four persons to earn total earning of Rs. 5, 535 per month. That is you have to find four persons to sponsor.


The example doesn't "suggest" anything. It's ... surprise ... an example! And no, you don't have to find four people to sponsor to earn that income. You could earn it by sponsoring nobody! Or maybe sponsoring a hundred people!

It seems the flaw in Amway, as far as you go, is that you actually have to work hard and achieve something to make money. If you don't achieve it, then you make no money.

Welcome to the world of business.

Still, I would say I think parts of that Amway India brochure are very badly worded. It talks for example about reaching "the monthly requirements". There is no such thing, there are no "requirements", the brochure is wrong. It also states you "can easily sell products worth 300PV". I don't like it phrased that way. It may be "easy" for some people, it may be extremely hard for others. There's also a few other issues, I may do a blog post on this or setup a section on Amway Talk to talk about it.

As for me "conveniently ignoring" information, I haven't "conveniently ignored" anything. I don't know the current status of the case, the Indian Courts website doesn't appear to give such information and I have no other source to access.

Oh, I replied on the "Nirmala from Hyderabad" post as well.