Shyam
Your resident masked-parrot has now admitted that if 'Amway' adherents are buying products themselves and recruiting others to do the same, then that's a scam, but in virtually the same squawk he pretends that this is not the case and that anyone who says so is a liar and/or fool.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, there are tens of millions of former 'Amway' adherents (and their friends and relatives) to prove Steadson wrong.
As you know Shyam, I was approached by my own brother in the 1990s and told that I could become a millionaire by 'Duplicating the 2-5 Year Plan', i.e. buying a regular quota of 'Amway' products and then recruiting 6 more people to Duplicate exactly the same plan etc. ad infinitum. My brother was so deluded by the closed-logic 'Amway' myth, that he believed that all supermarkets in the UK were going to 'close down within 10 years' and that 'millions of UK citizens were going to retire from their jobs thanks to Amway.' No matter what rational argument was put to him, my brother's mind was programmed not to accept any challenge to the authenticity of the 'Amway' Utopia . He eventually excluded all so-called 'Negative' persons from his life. I have not seen or spoken to my brother for 10 years. People who have spoken to him recently, tell me that he now pretends that he was never involved in 'Amway'.
Every former 'Amway' adherent that I've ever interviewed (right up to the so-called 'Diamond' level) have all told me essentially the same thing. 'Amway' adherents are conditioned to believe that 'selling products is for losers: Winners Duplicate the Plan.'
Steadson's comic-book character is self-evidently part of the 'Amway' Ministry of Truth. Trying to have a debate with this systematic inverter of the truth makes about as much sense as banging one's head on a brick wall.
David Brear
Your resident masked-parrot has now admitted that if 'Amway' adherents are buying products themselves and recruiting others to do the same, then that's a scam, but in virtually the same squawk he pretends that this is not the case and that anyone who says so is a liar and/or fool.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, there are tens of millions of former 'Amway' adherents (and their friends and relatives) to prove Steadson wrong.
As you know Shyam, I was approached by my own brother in the 1990s and told that I could become a millionaire by 'Duplicating the 2-5 Year Plan', i.e. buying a regular quota of 'Amway' products and then recruiting 6 more people to Duplicate exactly the same plan etc. ad infinitum. My brother was so deluded by the closed-logic 'Amway' myth, that he believed that all supermarkets in the UK were going to 'close down within 10 years' and that 'millions of UK citizens were going to retire from their jobs thanks to Amway.' No matter what rational argument was put to him, my brother's mind was programmed not to accept any challenge to the authenticity of the 'Amway' Utopia . He eventually excluded all so-called 'Negative' persons from his life. I have not seen or spoken to my brother for 10 years. People who have spoken to him recently, tell me that he now pretends that he was never involved in 'Amway'.
Every former 'Amway' adherent that I've ever interviewed (right up to the so-called 'Diamond' level) have all told me essentially the same thing. 'Amway' adherents are conditioned to believe that 'selling products is for losers: Winners Duplicate the Plan.'
Steadson's comic-book character is self-evidently part of the 'Amway' Ministry of Truth. Trying to have a debate with this systematic inverter of the truth makes about as much sense as banging one's head on a brick wall.
David Brear
2 comments:
Brear,
You haven't talked with your own brother in 10 years, yet you have other people spy on him? You have issues, and they have nothing to do with Amway.
Although I'm not surprised, you are even too chicken to talk with me. LOL
Brear, while I think you're a sociopath, I also think you're a smart enough man to be able to read properly. I did not say -
if 'Amway' adherents are buying products themselves and recruiting others to do the same, then that's a scam
I think it's bad business model if that's all your doing, but it's not a scam. You're running a scam if that's what you're doing and you're "inventory loading", just piling up the products with no legitimate demand. If anyone is doing it though, it's *they* that are scamming people as it's clearly against Amway's rules.
With regards your brother you say -
he believed that all supermarkets in the UK were going to 'close down within 10 years' and that 'millions of UK citizens were going to retire from their jobs thanks to Amway
How does your brother's hyperbolic beliefs make Amway a scam? I've been with Amway more than a decade. I've never thought supermarkets would close down due to Amway, nor that "millions" would retire from it.
Though I'm not surprised your supposed rational arguments wouldn't work, since even in the "buy for yourself teach others to do the same" model, it's NOT a closed system by any measure. An essential feature of a closed system is that it has no inputs. Even the BFYTODS model as external inputs, and what's more (as you choose to ignore, despite enough statistics to prove it) the majority of people purchasing products are merely customers, they are not "participants in the scheme" in any form except for signing a form that says they can participate if they want.
As for "selling products is for loser" - if every Amway adherent you've spoken to says that, it just goes to show how closed and limited your experience is. I can predict with a degree of certainity that probably every single one of them was somehow associated with the Britt/Yager system or an offshoot of it, whom I'm aware, particularly in the past, promoted that type of thinking.
There's a whole world of Amway outside of them that you apparently have no experience with, or have wilfully decided to pretend doesn't exist. I've been taught that sales to retail customers is an essential part of the Amway plan from the day I was introduced to it and continue to this day. I've heard Trevor & Jackie Lowe, from your homeland, promoting customers and the fact they have many customers for many, many years. Indeed if I recall correctly Jackie Lowe said they had more than 75 personally registered Amway clients they sell to. I haven't even been building an Amway business in recent years but when someone enquired on another forum I checked my records and found I'd had more than 20 retail clients in the first 6 months of this year. I was taught it, I teach it, I encourage it, and I do it.
You need to get out more. Amway's bigger than you think.
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